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August 2, 2006

 

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Help for patients....

Would it be helpful to have a section on the Wound Care Information Network that was specifically for patients?

For example, there are patients who are on the Internet, looking for wound care information. But there are also patients who come to you for treatment. You might want to tell them to visit a website to provide more information beyond what you have the time to explain.

If this is something that you think would be useful, please let me know what type of content a patient would be interested in knowing...or what type of content would be helpful to you, if your patients knew.

Dr. Allan Freedline

Dr. Freedline:

This is a excellent idea! I was put in contact with you by my daughter, a surgical tech, who found you on the internet after I told her my husband's doctor was talking about amputating his foot due to a heel ulcer that covered almost his entire heel and was open to the bone. He then got another ulcer on his other heel. His first happened while in the hospital in October of 2005. He spent five more times in the hospital since then. He has been treated with Panafil and vaccum dressings, hyperbaric oxygen and finally, with my insistance that the dressing treatments be changed to another medicine, Collanase Santyl. He was also put on oxygen at home 24 hours a day at that time. His heels finally began to heal with this medicine and everyone is amazed at how fast his ulcers filled in and the size of the ulcer grew smaller each time it was measured. At this time he is wearing a foam type bandage over the skin grafts that were done yesterday and dressing changes will go from every day to three times a week, so as not to disturb the grafts. Tell people not to give up, to take part in the care of the patient as a family member and resort to another opinion, if need be. It worked for us!

Darcy Reverend, MA

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I think it would be a great resource for patients. I would suggest general info on current expert opinion, in layman’s terms of course. For instance, information like Dakin’s/wet-dry should not be used except for short periods of time and only on infected/necrotic wounds. Also, information on new evidence-based practice such as moist wound healing. Maybe we could save some patients some problems associated with clinicians who still cling to old-fashioned wound care. I had a problem with a podiatrist just last week who came into the hospital on an order for routine foot care (pt’s toenails were awful), and debrided a stable heel ulcer that I had successfully babied until it was nice and dry and beginning to look like it would simply peel off in the days to come, and then ordered betadine to dress it!!!! How was this patient to know which practitioner to believe? The more education patients have, the better.

Vicki, DPT, CWS

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Hi,

As far as patient information section it my be helpful for the basics of wound healing like offloading, and explaining the basics of wound healing and what promotes it.

This may give the patients a better view of what's going on...maybe a place to have definitions explained like a glossary and the basics on skin care and prevention prevention prevention.

Hope this helps

Michele in San Diego

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Hi Dr. Freedline:

That is a good option. In my opinion, however, the patients should still be able to view all the information. They probable like reading everything. Maybe you should ask the patients also, what they prefer.

Best Regards,

Jamie Pinnock RN, CWCN

Would you have any information on air mattresses or alternating air mattresses being beneficial for the prevention of decubiti ulcers? I work in a long care facility/ rehab center, 80 bed units I'm the skin nurse and the hospital that runs the nursing home is looking into doing away with the air mattresses as they feel they are not cost effective.
Thank you,
Christine Jedra
No specialty bed will prevent skin breakdown. The only thing that will prevent pressure ulcers is to turn the patient and offload heels.

Tell them to put their money into a "turn team" that turns all the patients every 2 hours.

Hope this Helps

Michele RN WCCin San Diego

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Do you use the Braden scale?

Carol RN MSN
Certified Wound Specialist

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Look into the KCI line of beds. The Versia Care A.I.R. bed, it is not an air bed. It can be used for patients with stage 1-3 uncomplicated wounds. It doesn’t have the drying component of the air bed. For moist wounds the traditional air beds seem to be the best, but the elderly might benefit from a bed that is less drying. We have been using the Versia Care and Versia Care A.I..R. they seem to be a good product.
Sandy..

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Hi Christine:

I don’t have specific articles, but there is a wealth of information on why support surfaces are important in the prevention and treatment of pressure ulcers. I am very surprised to hear that a facility is considering not having appropriate support surfaces because of cost. How confident can you be? Two words: LAW SUIT. My suggestion to you is to contact your support surface Rep. who should be able to provide you with evidence and education on why having a pressure ulcer prevention and treatment plan is essential in any institution. Patients should be screened upon admission using an appropriate scale such as the Braden. Depending on the results of the scale, a proper prevention plan should be enforced. A good plan will more than likely include using a proper support surface.

Best Regards,

Jamie Pinnock, RN, CWCN
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I think APM2 mattresses are good and have been beneficial for all stages of
wounds.
Roopa Lothe ,PT ,RN,FCCWS.
 

I am researching scab formation and I need to know how long does it take for scabs to form after injury. Do you have any articles to recommend?

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sorry, no replies
This is a great site. Thanks for the info. I have a question about "road rash" type abrasions. My patient's deep abrasion is not very well vascularized. We have been doing mechanical debridement, and I wanted to switch to something else. Do you have any recommendations?
Thanks
Dana Essner, RN, APN,C
I have been very happy with Accuzyme. It works real well. Healthpoint is the product maker.
Sonja Whittredge RN, WCC

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panafil has given me some good results, you may try it.
thanks
Roopa Lothe, PT, RN, FCCWS

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Dana,
I am assuming since you've been doing mechanical debridement that the wounds are covered with slough or necrotic tissue.
I have been using Gladase, a topical debriding agent from Smith & Nephew BID with good results. It is similar to accuzyme.
Donna Cameron RN WCC

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Debridements are appropriate for road related abrasions but what wound care is being used with this patient?
Keep an anti-microbial, that maintains a moist environment for healing. But also don't be too aggresive with the debridements. Some patients respond more with "rest periods" between the debridements(ie: debride Q7-10 days)
Hope this helps,
Amy Pastor RN CWS
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What I have used on these painful abrasions is Granulex. It sprays on and will help heal the wound and keep it moist. You can over the area with Adaptic or Vasoline Gauze OR leave it open to air and just spray on the wounds BID. It helps with pain also. Actually it works like Xanaderm but it's in a spray without the pertroleum base. If you apply a barrier cream or some other ointment over the Granulex it will work even better.

Hope this helps

Michele RN WCC in San Diego

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I have had great success with tegaderm or tegaderm absorbent for road rash/abrasions.

Carol RN MSN
Certified Wound Specialist

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Does anyone have any hints for how to get new products into our system? The committee doesn't want to approve new products. What information have you found that your product committee needs to see?

Mary, RN, CWS

Whenever you are trying to get a committee to add new products for wound care it is quite simple. Just think of what it took to get you convinced the product was valuable and something that you and your patients wanted to use. You had to know the product actually worked and did not cause harm (research supplied by the product manufacter). You probably had to actually see the results for yourself (personal clinical trials). You had to know the application of the product was something that was actually do-able in the real world and not just on paper (clinical application compliance). You had to know the cost was equal to the value of the product to the patient (financial). You had to know there was not a better, less expensive alternative available (differential alternatives). Now your job is to write down what you have experienced and submit it to your committee. Your committee will digest your information based on the constraints they are obligated to function within such as company contracts with suppliers, etc.
FWCA, ANP-CS

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Hi Mary:

Most clinicians regardless of care setting complain about getting new products on the formulary. Depending on the institution, there are many factors involved in getting products on a formulary. Factors include: Cost, contracts involved, distribution companies etc. My question to you is- Do you have a product formulary that includes everything you need—hydrogels, foams, alginates etc? Sometimes if Management feels that all wound dressing categories are covered on the formulary, then there is no need to add new products. The best approach is to educate, try a controlled clinical trial- where by the Rep from the company whose product you are trying to get on the formulary may give you a certain amount of product to use on 1 or 2 patients who qualify for the use of the product. Based on the Results, you may be able to convince them that the product is a good one to have for a particular wound treatment ( Based on what the product is marketed for). Work with your Reps.

Best Regards.

Jamie Pinnock RN, CWCN
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I work in long term care and to get new products approved we usually get samples and try it on one resident for an agreed period of time to assess effectiveness of the product if good results the committee is usually agreeable to order that product.
K .in Pa

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I would let the company sell the product. That's what their job is anyway. Have them emphasize cost savings etc...that usually gets their attention.

Hope this helps

Michele RN WCC in San Diego


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