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I have a question regarding Aquacel. Is it necessary to cut the drsg to fit the size of the wound. I have seen this done may times.

As well, wondering what type of drsg is best to assist with removal of slough adhered to a wound bed. I would greatly appreciate some advise.

Weve

The purpose of Aquacel is to absorb drainage from a wound. It may overlap the wound a little without causing harm, but what purpose is it serving covering good skin? A wound that has slough or fibrin in it will not heal because the dead material needs to be removed. Wounds begin healing when the base is a beefy red. Our doctors in the clinic use sharp debridement on patient clinic visits when appropriate. An enzymatic debrider may also be prescribed for daily treatment changes.
L.Sherwood RN

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Debridement of slough can be done with
1- enzymatic debriding medications like accuzyme or panifil
2- moisture retaining dressings like Aquacell or other alginates, hydrocolloids or foams. It depends on how much drainage there is. If the dressing is too absorbent it will dry out the wound. If it is not absorbent enough it will macerate the wound. So many dressings can do the job, it just needs to be matched with the wound characteristics.

The best choice, combine both of the above.

unsigned

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Weve, Aquacel dressings should cover the wound bed and at least half an inch over the peri-wound (wound edges). Depending on how much slough is in the wound you can go one of two ways. 1. either duoderm gel and cover with duoderm and change every 3 days or if wrinkled or soiled. 2. Acuzyme will enzymatically deride quicker. I have had many good results.



Hope this helps

Julie palmer RN WCC
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When using aquacel, as well as calcium alginate, it is important to fill the wound bed (lightly pack) without allowing too much to overlap on the intact skin. To help protect the intact skin, I find it helpful to apply a moisture barrier to peri-wound area.
There are many dressings that can help in removing slough from a wound. I will usually suggest an enzymatic treatment when there is a significant amount of slough.
Patti, RN, WCC

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depends on client and whether diabetic, have used intrasite gel, aquacel ag, with a biatain dressing

W Wood RN

I have a question. Is there any cases or uses for cryo" when it comes to severe wound healing. I would like to know if there is some kind of heat therapy or cryo" used for severe pressure wound healing because I have a patient who is in need of wound healing. And it is persistent. Thank you for your help.
 
Cryo therapy and heat destroy tissue. Why would you want to destroy tissue in a wound that already has destroyed tissue???????????? You would make the wound worse................
pat devine rn cwocn

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What about hyperbaric oxygen therapy? Ms. Wood RN

Please could answer a query from one of my link nurses, she has heard that following incision and drainage of an acute abscess there is no need to “pack” the cavity wound, is this new evidence?

Regards

Marcia
Tissue Viability Nurse

The purpose of packing a wound that has a tract is to utilize the packing as a wick to absorb drainage to outside. You insert the packing to the end of track and leave tail outside that prevents losing in wound. Wounds that have tracts must heal from the bottom up. They should never be overpacked. Overpacking can lead to blocking the drainage, rather than pulling away. L Sherwood RN

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NO, This is contraindicated by all current standards of wound care. All open spaces do need to packed to allow the wound to drain of the abscess and heal from the bottom up. Otherwise, another abscess will form if the skin closes over the opening.
Michelle PT, CWS

Do you have any information, sources, or links about nursing competencies for wound care that is available?

Is there a checklist of competencies that they should have?

Gisele McCarthy, RN

Kathy Thomas Hess, wound consultant provides the criteria at her web site. You have to purchase the sheet from her company but it is very comprehensive. "Wound Care Strategies" (the web site), Inc. Harrisburg, Pa.
DE BSN RN
Could you shed light on the issue concerning whether or not a low air loss mattress is required for these patients or just a bar iatric bed which will accommodate their size

And weight;they are mobile by post op day two and have only the co morbidities associated with their weight. We want to provide the recommended standard of care. What does AHCPR say about this? Thank you

Sarah Rando R.N.

You always need to look at the co-morbitity of the resident. A bariatric mattress is no different than a regular sized one. You need to check for "bottoming out" in all mattresses. If the patient has a potential for breakdown then you need a "pressure relieving" mattress. If they have a stage 2 or 3 there are mattresses made for them and a stage 4 usually a speciality mattress is in order. I use a standard air mattress for many of my patients that are very thin, are total dependent in bed or have other health issues. An obese person has many issues that a special mattress will not help such as skin to skin contact. Get a clinical practice guideline book. Treatment of PU, free of charge. Type in AHCPR or NPUAP and the info will come up.
DE Rn BSN

My father is 81 years old and in a nursing home.
His pressure ulcer started out about the size of a quarter, last month about the third week of April, 06.
It is now the size of a softball and there is no skin there.
I can send pictures and if anyone can offer me some advice on how to get him better it would be greatly appreciated.
I am a nutritionist and know about the importance of hjealing and proper nutrition.

However, I do want to know if there are some products out there in the market
similar to a childs lifesaver that is thick enough to keep his pressure ulcer from touching the bed.
His ulcer by the way is on the back of his upper buttocks.

Sincerely,

Ray Godinez
Talk with the staff regarding a wound care nurse or md to see wound.

Tami Redman RN, WCC
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Your father should be evaluated by a wound care specialist, check out AAWM's website for a list of wound care specialists in your area. The "donut" that you are referring to is no longer recommended. How much time does he spend out of bed? He should not be sitting in a chair for prolonged periods of time and should be on a low airloss mattress while in bed, and if he cannot do so himself, he should be turned and positioned off the ulcer at least every 2 hours. Good luck.

Debby RN WCC
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While donut shaped devices are sold for this purpose, it is not a recommended treatment. It does redistribute pressure from the wound but it increases the pressure (above normal) where the donut is, increasing the risk of pressure ulcer development.
At this recent stage, I would recommend focusing on:
Preventing/Treating infection.
Developing moisture balance in the wound.
Nutrition
Bed and chair surface (low air loss bed or other, pressure relieving seat...)
Total nutrition (protein requirements increased to 1.2 g /kg of body mass with wound)
Turning/ repositioning more frequently.
Medications affecting healing.
Its not just the size/stage of the wound but the medical status of thew whole person: their mobility, activity, moisture, sensation, ability to communicate.

Best wishes to you and your father ,
Michelle PT, CWS

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Sadly, this has been caused because your father was not repositioned frequently. However, he needs at least a low air loss mattress for pressure relief. The wound also needs treatment and I am sure by now some physician has seen the wound and given a recommendation. Julie RN WCC

Julie Palmer RN

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Get him a pressure relieving mattress.
Pat Devine Rn CWOCN

I have 3 open leg ulcers on the outside of my right calf,i told Dr they were burning really bad, I am scheduled to have a unna boot put on next week,in the meantime he gave me lidocaine to put on my leg for the pain, well, it started to burn like crazy, so I wiped it off, should lidocaine be put on a open wound like that, I looked it up and it said no.

PJ

4% lidocaine is a commonly used on wounds to decrease pain to enable dressing removal, debridement and other care where pain interferes with treatment. There are other options however they affect the whole body and the mind, lidocaine acts locally only. Try elevating your leg ABOVE heart level, if your pain is from the edema then it will decrease. Infection can also cause pain ans should be ruled out.

unsigned

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lidocaine will burn at first once applied to open wounds. give it a few minutes and this will go away. I work at at wound care center and that is what we use prior to sharp debridment. Has the would been cultured? would want to know that prior to having any multi layer compression placed on your leg. keep your leg elevated. This might also cause
burning until the swelling decreases some.

Hope this is helpful,
Michelle RN

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Get a second opinion from a wound care specialist.

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What type, have you tried viscopaste, or perhaps plain aquacel with acticoat 7, dependent on drainage coverage, ? allevyn, mepilex, and cover with abd pad, secure with a micropore tape,
wrap not too tight with conform

I have a question to you in regards have you had a leg ulcer assessment, what did or do they recommend, or have they recommended, wraps [compression] curious as to edema bilaterally or not,

Ms. Wood RN

An 85 year old lady has just been admitted to my ward following a right CVA.The lady was found lying on her kitchen floor. her condition indicated that she had been lying there for at least 24 hours. She had developed reddened areas to her left elbow and her left hip, which are now blanching. There is also a stage 3 pressure ulcer on her left lateral malleolus. The ulcer has a small amount of slough at the base of the ulcer, with minimal exudate. Please explain to me the factors which assist the healing process. and what dressing do you think would be the most appropriate to be applied to this ulcer, and why. thank you I appreciate your feed back
 
Non viable tissue is removed by a debrieding agent / the dressing decision is based on the amount of drainage.
pat devine rn cwocn
Do you know of any Wound Care Training and employment for NP's in the State of Florida?

Thank you for your help.
 

Visit the web site www.wcei.net for course information. I recently took this course and it is wonderful. They will take layman up to md's!!

Tami Redman, RN, WCC
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Check out WCEI.NET.
Debby RN WCC
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Contact the wound ostomy and continence nursing society

unsigned

I currently have a wound vac in place on a dehissed surgical wound on my abdomen. I had tram flap reconstruction after a bilateral mastectomy, and the abdomen opened up after becoming infected. They have finally cleared up the infection, but I have an open wound, 18cm across, 5 cm up/down, and 3.5 cm deep. I was told originally the wound vac would be on 4 to 6 weeks, but it is week 3, and other than clearing the infection, the size of my wound is relatively unchanged. What is a reasonable amount of time to expect to have the wound vac in place? Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions are very welcome. Thank you.

simplyandrea@echoes.net

All wounds heal at different paces. It sounds like their original estimate was optimistic. Some people (for many reasons) can be on a wound vac for several months. Now that your infection is cleared up you should begin to heal at a more rapid pace. (Many wound stall in the inflammatory phase because of excess bacteria and/or a decrease in growth factors produced by your body in the wound. Once the wounds jump to the next phase the changes do occur rapidly.) You could be healing slower if your immune system is compromised (chemotherapy?), if you are losing more protein in the wound drainage then you are eating (1.2 g of protein per KG of body weight), or if there are any cleaning agent being used that decrease the growth factors in the wound (Daikins solution, hydrogen peroxide, iodine..).

Do your best to eat well (protein and vitamins), and stay well hydrated. Work with your doctors/nurses if any of the other factors I've mentioned apply to you. And above all, try focus on the progress you are making and not how long it takes because NO ONE can truly predict that.

I hope this is helpful,
Good Luck! PT/ CWS

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the wound vac is wonderful and can close a wound by up 50% faster than conventional wound care. Are they using white foam as well as the black? And if so is the vac increased to 150 mmhg negative pressure. I would expect that your wound should be much smaller after 3 weeks if all is ok. Maybe you could call KCI (the company) and have a RN rep
stop by to see you. Any would care centers around you.? Check to see.

Good luck,
Michelle RN


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